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Wednesday, October 7, 2015

Another puzzle. Bhishma Nirvan Tithi

It is universally agreed that Bhishma died on or immediately after Winter Solstice day. Shri. Oak has claimed that the year of Mahabharata War was 5561 BCE. In that year, Autumnal equinox was in Purvashadha and Winter Solstice was in Revati. I ask Shri. Oak to verify and correct me if I am wrong. My basis is - In the year 2015 CE, Summer Solstice was in Ardra as per Kalanirnay. Winter Solstice was thus in Moola. 5561 +2015 = 7576 years back WS would be 7576/960 = 8 nakshatras ahead i. e. Revati.
Now, all claim that Bhishma Nirvan took place on either Magha Shukla Ashtami or Chaturthi or Krishna Chaturthi. The earlier Purnima was a Poush Purnima when moon was in Pushya Nakshatra. On Poush Amavasya, Moon would have moved to Shravan or Dhanishtha. Sun on that day would also have been in Dhanishtha. From Dhanishtha, Sun would need at least 50 days to move through 4 nakshatras to Revati. Problem is, there are only 4 or 8 or max. 20 days from Poush Amavasya to the tithis in Magha mentioned above! So in 5561 BCE, what was the month and tithi on Witer Solstice or Bhishma’s death? It was obviously not Magha Shukla Ashtami or Shukla chaturdashi or Krishna Chaturdashi.
If the year of war is pulled forward by 2500 years, to say 3000 BCE then winter solstice may move to Shatataraka. Sun which would be in Dhanishtha on Poush Amavasya as shown above, can move to Shatataraka in 8 days from Poush Amavasya to Magha Shukla Ashtami. Till Magha Krishna Chaturthi also it can remain in Shatataraka. So either of them can be the tithi for Bhishma Nirvan. Again, 3000 BCE is well outside the Epoch of Arundhati!
Can anyone find an year within the Epoch when Winter Solstice was in Dhanishtha? Only then the Winter Solstice can be on Magha Shukla Ashtami or Krishna Chaturthi! I dont see any possibility.


Nilesh Oak said...

Winter solstice near Ravati in 5561 BCE is correct.

(1) MBH researchers have suggested all kinds of tithis...it is a big party (Magha S 4, 8, 12, Magha K 4, 8. 12 etc.).

The puzzle you are trying to solve, consider one adhika masa and see what happens!!

Nilesh Oak

प्रभाकर फडणीस P.K. Phadnis said...

Regrettably, I am not able to accept your suggestion. In Mahabharata Times as explained by Bhishma the practice was to take a pair of adhikaMasas after 58 normal months. In the Adnyatavasa Year the pair had already occurred. So there can be no Adhika masa in the year of war.

प्रभाकर फडणीस P.K. Phadnis said...

To make a difference, the Adhika Masa will have to be between Poush and Magh (Adhika Magha)so as to get 50 days between Poush Amavasya and Magh Krishna Chaturthi. Any direct or indirect mention of this Adhika Magh in Mahabharat?